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Eny1fOflmtnt Gay Rights FORian poll<:): Gyn •• nd Crime I:IID!L'Y Exclusive to About, by John Aravosis (Hnr snippets from Bill O'Reilly's AdMCa/e intuview by clicking on the 001 to the righL) My Article begins here ... America's religious right does not tolerate those they believe to be ideologically impure, and that's why they're bound to be a bit upset with FOX TV superstar Bill O'Reilly_ O'Reilly is the host of "The O'Reilly Factor." a no-holds-barred slugfest of ideas that regularly lambastes feminists, Democrats, Ihe ACLU and anyone else (usually on the left) who ticks the lrish-Catholic O'Reilly 01T on a given day, Gays and lesbians are a particular target of the hit show, gelling more than their fair share of negative air time, and Ihafs why O'Reilly's upcoming interview in America's i the before i ' "t IS Lla_.o Snl,.- o' O'ReIlI\l'. AdvoGt. InOHwlew ~~. '" Mor. "om Yo". G,,1de hnp:lluspolitiCS .aboutcom flibraryfwet'kly/aa082802b ,htm 8/30102 'kcr gay publication, bllt cvcn more ~'UTpri~ing is whatlle tells them. (rile .... ,. from Aboo", interview , .... ill hit thc ncw stands on Septcmber 3). O'Reilly Pro Gay? According to Michael Giltz. a freelance rCpllMcr (and personal fricnd of mine) who conducted thc interview livc in O'Reilly's Manhattan office, O'Reilly not only ",itcl"ll1es his previolls suppon for gay adoption, bUI he goes on \0 call the US military "homophobic" (though he still thinks the gay ban is rte(;essary), says that gays should have the right to vi~it their same-sex spouses in the hospital (in many locales they cannot), thinks evcry statc should have laws protecting gays and lesbiMs from discrimination in the wori<placc (only 12 states ellrTently do), and opposes the repeal of a gay righ l~ oroinaru.:e in Florida's Miami-Dad e County (the hotly-conlcsted repeal measure is on thc ballot Septcmber 10). Thal"s enough right thcre to make the religious right grab for a Maalox. But there's more. On gay marriage, one ofth~ hOI-bunon religious-right issues, O'Reilly starts by telling Giltz lhat he opposes it. Ihen when pushed by the reponer, finally conced~"'$: "Look, I eouldn'l care less, 10 tcll YOIl the truth .. , Y 011 want 10 gCI married? Knock you=lf out. Go 10 Vcgas; have a good time ..• [fyou can gel that changed, I'm nol going to jump lip and dO\ITl and say I think it"swrong, because I don'\." Who You Calling a Fanatic? Thcn things get really interesting. O'Reilly calls people who quote the Old Testamt:ntto label gays an abominat ion "holy rollc,."," (a term often perceived to be pejorativc). Then he refCTS \0 vocal anti-gay advocates as "fanatics" ("90"-' percent of Americans don't care what you do; 10% arc fMatics." O'Reilly tells Gilt:t.. "They think you're going to hell. and they .... "3I1t YOllto go 10 hell. All right? Ignore them.") Whcn asked to clarify exaclly who he mcans by "fanatics," O'Rcilly responds: "I mcan, people who think you are going to hcll and are going to quote from Revelation that you're going there. I think that's a little ridiculous. don't you? Those an: the people." PAGE 2: O'Reilly on "ReligiQ.Y.s .'anatics" O'Reilly Interview Shocker. p"ge 2 of 4 Page I ofS u.s. Politics: Current Events a .... --"':r' -. -;"..~. -c;:; 1 .OOLl .. " . ..,. .... " 1~""'J:"~ ;J -, .............. "'\' (/~·::.:,,,. \\" ,-, ' '.i' -, ••• ".,. ., r _ . - ""th John Arallosl, Your Guide to one of hundreds of sites Home' Articles· Forums· Chat· Clanifieds Free N.wsl.tter ~. I>o Iot .... <><1 gr •• t ... info from ou' ~- -r::.-Want the jump on Back to SChool Shopping? let About help. Dorm Life, Dell {&ropJ,!.!m, and.o:!.Q.(g! Subjects » !jEWI CIa_uif;'Jts fSSElHIAL5 'WIIr~ , • 1,1"ldlro..bllbl .~~ . G.-; AIIopIjoo,fgI -""" ... "" r • .LlQliw Middle East 8Jo..Vr..d.n Hymor p.ltioljc StuM f(WJle.nteJ!sh vP Cheney AIl.Q{!iJm Anlhrll! The C.bin.t C •• ml!!!ign Finance C.jll9lic Sc;md.1 ~ndra levy C!:!inI. Cong~ Civil Riglitl. J;nronllll . I;nvironm .nt ~.Big hls ~n pollc.y !Ouns .nd Crime O'Reilly Interview Shocker -page 2 of 4 !Ita. snipptlS r rom Bill 0' Rtilly's At/''OC(Jle illlrrvirw by clicking on the bas to the right O'Reilly Won', Name Names In all fairness. when ihe Admcate pressed O'Reilly 10 name names (for example. were Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson "fanatics"?), he demurred . Nonetheless. it's difficult to avoid the conclusion that mem~rs of the religious right were among the fanatics and holy rollers to whom O'Rei Ily was referring. as they clearly "care what gays do" and regularly claim 10 be quoting the Bible in suggesting that gays will not be going to Heaven: L .... n ... Sftlppet_ 01 O·R .. IIy·_ A<hooco •• 'n"'",_ Mor. f.om You. Guldoo • The Family Research Council, a lead religious right anti.gay activist organization. issued a press release on October 16, 1998,lhe day of slain University of Wyoming student ~~~~~~~~ : Matihew Shepard's funeral, supposedly quoting the Sible as saying ihat "homosexuals are included in a Jist of sinners, ..... ho. if unrepentant, will not inhe";t ihe kingdom of God: Ma •• f,n. About I:llilm. htlp:lfuspolitics.aboutcoml1ibrary /weekly/aa082802c ,hun 8f30/02 ~r-page20r4 • An essay on the Web site of the American Family Association, another lead anti-gay organization of the rar right, «ohoes the same sentiment • As does the Coral Ridge Ministries, another lead IVouP of anti-gay activists, But more important than the nuance of to whom he might be referring, is the fact thaI Bill O'Reilly is one of America's favorite right-wingers, and his TV show reportedly tops Lany King's in the nightly ratings, O'Reilly is a foree to be r«okoned with in conservative politics, and when he staru agreeing with gay rights advocates about the legitimacy of as peets of their c~usc,that's news. Religious Right HilS Always Been Suspicious Interestingly, even before deUliis of the AJvoca/c interview were made public, the religious right had its qualms with Bill O'Reilly's supposed pro-gay agenda. In a sUltemem recently issued <h' r "The Gay Spin that his show is a "no-spin zone," homosexual movement even the issue of into the lIomosexual's on site home page, the (CWFA) even refer to O'Reilly as a "conservative" between-quotcs, suggesting the moniker may not be correct: "Pro-homosexual media bias is getting SO bad," CWFA says on their Web site, "that even 'conservatives'like FOX's Bill O'Reilly are going out of their way to show they are 'gay'-positivc ," A few days later, on August 27 of this year, the ultra conservative Washington Times (. newspaper owned by the Moonies, and with very close ties 10 the religious right) ~I!rint~ the ponion of "The Gay Spin Zone' that atUlcks O'Reilly, alongside a large picture of the TV host (The religious right has also not been happy with the fact that O'Reilly will be appearing in a panel discussion at the National Lesbian and Gay Journalist A5SOCiation in September.) Ofooursc, O'Reilly's views on gay iss\ll.'S shouldn't come as a complete surprise to anyone who's done their homework Gilt" pointed me to two paragraphs from O'Reilly's top-selling book. "The O'Reilly Fa<:tor." Itmt echo wh.8tlhe pundit said to the Advocate: O'Reilly on Fanatics: "On the other h.8nd. religious fanatics who demonize gays and other alternative groups arcn't covering themselves with glory, either. Yes. I know about the references to homosexuality as 'an abomination' in Leviticus. but I also know what the Old Testament says about slavery, As long as a sexual issue is not intruding on your freedom or endangering your kids.kave it to God to sort it OUl The Deity is a lot smarter than W<.: are. llmt's also in the Bible." ("The O'Reilly Factor." pJ4) O'Reilly on Anti_Gay Job Discriminalion: "And here on earth our legal system is the plllCC to go 50rt Oul problems such as civil rights being violated because of scxual preference. To someone gay who is the victim of diserimination or abuse. I say exchange the high heels for a sensible business suit. because that's appropriate for the playing field. and hire a lawyer who will put the SCreWS to wh.8\ever bastards are interfering with your rights to prh'fJte sexual expression ." ("The O'Reilly Factor." p.34) religious right leaders questioned O'Reilly's Cltholicism and Slate of mind (you can listen to the IS-minute or so interview 9Illjne her( (RealPlayer ~ired) : "[To] continua lly refer 10 him5elf as a Christian, as an Irish Catholic, I think that many people ore otTended by Bill's statement to be a Christian as well as an lri~h Catholic, .. For a man to come right out and SOIy that he docs not believe in the Old Testa/nent.. . ] think that many Catholics across this nation as "'ell as the world are otTended by Bill O'Reilly claiming he's an Irish Catholic."· SI~n Bennett. cx-gay leader ..... ho in the coming mQIlths ,,;11 be spcakini olTicially on behalfofthe Concerned Women for America (CWFA). "The Bihlc says that my people are desl10yed for lack of knowledge. Bill is an exemplary example of the American Christian who docs not know what God's "'oro said. he does oot know." • Sandy Rios, President ofCWFA "He's confused ... on this issue. he can't find his "oice. he kind ofsnunbles ..... hen he addresses il .... Then he goes and slams people like us and says.. well they're fanatiu." • Bob Knight, head of the CWFA's Culture and Family Institute "He's very confused." -Sandy Rios, kcad ofCWFA. on O'Reilly "So he doesn't bcliew: in heaven and hell. II didn~ I11lIICT lhat Jesus sacrifioed his life on the cross. This is I ,'ery elrtJ'Cmc staiemcnt ... tNUtlle whole idea ofhcll is ridiculous."· 80b Knight ofCWFA. UPDATE 312'102 -Noon EST Washington Timn Reporll on O'Reilly Inlerview The uber-wnservative Washil'1(lWl 'limes repons today on thc Adwcale O'Reilly intelView. ~ ere. (Note: Once you get to tile Washil'1(IOI I Times sile, you11 need 10 scroll down to the "Mr. Tolerance " Inicle.) UPDATE 3121102 • 7:30PM EST Religioul Right Blasts O'R~illy Since this story about O'Reilly's Acfonoole interview was published, the religious right has been quick to respond. A kWPOkcsm l.!!. for the religious right. who is often quoted in their literature and broadcasts. had the following to say on August 28. 2002 about Bill O'Reilly's interview that is discussed in the article below -!he entire paragraph was written by thc religious right spokesman: Bil[ O'Reilly has long been lined up as the COIIservauve's champion and spokesper$Oll_ However, in his quest of popularity . on this issue of homosexu ality. O'Reilly has shocked and disappointed many viewers and supponers who put him where he is today_ He has been elevated to a position by conserv-at;ve America that was nevcr intended. and viewers may have put 'too much trust' into this man, According to an O'Reilly insider who asked not to be named. 'The Factor' is not what people think it is ... "Bill O'Reilly and The Factor is about two things .. , ratings and entertainment" And as stated by another unnamed source. " ... !he real guy you're all looking for here is Sean Hannity. This guy is genuine -and legit" After the commentary below. see the link for Bill O'Reilly's upcoming interview in the Septembe r issue ofthe national gay Magazine'The Am.XXlle' -sharing all of his pro-gay views. and mocking comments towards Bible believing Chrisrians the 'fanatical' religious right who should just be' ... ignored' - sadly. you won't believe what he says_ [Note: This statemtnt has since been removed from the religious right Web site. "Coincidentally" !he man making the statement was just invited to appear on O'Reilly's show.! O'Reilly Intervicw Shocker -page J of 4 Pagelof4 About ~ NO ... & IS ....... > u.s. F'o I,~C$: 'u"on' E_" u.s. Politics: Current Events ~ ~ VE~ on CDs, 0V0s &.More ~ veJ GONOW~ 'Of.com I _IIIbV_ . w.th John Aravosis Your Guide to one of hundreds of Searchl lin ... , toQo< ::::J e sites Home' Articles' Forums' Chat· Classifieds free Newsletter Got .ho!> .... and g,utest ",10 from ou, Guide •. "'" Want the jump on Sack to School Shopping? Let About help. Dorm Life, Dell Subjects > > liEWI Clauif"oeds ESSENTIAL S · ....... r. tit!!! on IhtlP • M\C'<lIO FIM Pal 'Iolo~ · Ou.Mo\lliOllM · f'<!I CoIllfJ! "" terrorism Middloo East B.1n...LJo$len Humor patriotic Stuff fLuidenl8ush VP Che.n.ey Abortion Anthrl!,!! lb, C.bln~ cam~ n...Ein8!l.C" ~1!l9 lic $CJIlld..al Q\!ItodraJ..'!Y.Y . """" Congress ~lgbJs Eru9.ll:!1!'Jt. EMlroJ\lllW ~_~Y..Blgl1ls E2a1g~--y GJm.UI.Jlcl Crim" I:!!!larY O'Reiliv Interview Shocker -page 3 of 4 IInr snippets from Bill O'Reilly's A,/tvICQU interview by dKking on the bo~ to the right. O'Reilly orr Gay Adoption l .... n.D Snl_ 0' And on no, ,'option O'R,·II 's v'ews O·ReIl ... • • ...,....,. .. .... .' y r In.e ... _ were already staked out earlier Ihis ycar whcn fellow lalk show superstar Rosie O'Donnell appeared on "The Factor." O·Donne li. who is a fosler parent and recently revealed that she is gay. is conlesting Florida's law banning gays from adopting children. In response to O'Donnell's appearance. O'Reilly didn't simply endorse gay adoption. he branded gay adoption foes (who are usually on the far righl. religious right. or both) as having "gay fear" and suITering from prejudice : "It ;s just a malleT of lime before the legislature in the Sunshine Stale pUiS the welfare of hard-to-adopt kids ahead of gay fear. Most clear_thinking Americans realize it is betler for a child to live in a nurturing I!OJ~ ) home run by gays. than to be on • ~~;g",.".-,,,. the merry-go-round of fosler care .. MD'. from Abo •• hnp:lluspolilics .abor.rt.comllibrary /weckly/aaOS2802d.hlm 8f30102 O'Reilly Interview Shocker -page 3 of 4 JFK As..aulnation John McC!!ln Kennedy ~ tiIIJ!.aJany r Threat 0sa!!M B'n y,!I,an fl!.Ii!JkalHIUll2t RlJigious R!gbl Sublact Ubrery AU atllela. on this I!!P~ Stay up-to-date! Subscribe to our newsletter. IEnte, Email Go! I Ad~c"I .. ~g > ~Cmlil Report > """""" "[Banning gay adoption] is a foolish prohibition based on the groundless fear that homosel<uals will somehow corrupt any child over which they hold sway. Bad parents and sexual molestation are not tied 10 one group. It is flat-(IUt prejudicial to deprive responsib le homosexuals of the right 10 save kids from transient foster care" ("Adopling a Philosophy." by Bill O'Rcilly, WorfdNelJ)oify. March 20, 2002) O'Reilly on Jerry fMhHIl and Pat Robertson Tbcn shonly after September II, when religious right icons Jerry Falwell and Pat Robcnso n. on open television , blamed gays. feminists and the ACLU for the attllcks -and otber religious right groups rose to the duo's defense· O'Reilly let them have it; "Believe me when 1 tell you that evel)'body I know is appalled: O'Reilly told a religious right representative wOO was on his soow and vacillating on whether her group would deal with Falwell and Robcnson in the future. "And I know some very conservative, very religious peopl<:. and everybody -there's nobody that I know lhat can juslify, condone, defend those remarks." O'Reilly on Anti-Gay Militant Robert Knight On June 6. 2001, one of America's lead anti-gay militants, Roben Knight of the Concerned Women for America, appeared on "The O'Reilly Faclor" 10 talk aboullhe religious righI's concern Ihat President Bush has a "homosexual agenda." O'Reilly starts the discussion by IlSking Knighl: "How militantly anli-gay arc you, Mr. Knight?" Later on in the interview, Knight suggests that gay rights dcf<:ndcrs are not very lolcranl, and O'Reilly re~ponds in kind: KNIGHT: ... This is nol a very tolerant movement we're dealing with. O'REILLY: Well-but you don't sound like a very tolerant guy either. You see what 1 m<:an? You're not realloleranl cilhl.:r. Knight tben tries to get O'Reilly 10 condemn gay relalionships: KNIGHT: Whal aboullhe behavior, Bill? Let's O'Reilly IntCT"Yiew Shocker -page 3 of 4 lall; llbotilthat for II minute. You're II commoo SI:1I$C guy, You can't posIlibly sit there and tell me that two men having sex together is moral and healthy and ... something God would ordain. O'REILLY: It's nol my business, It's nOI my busineS5, O' REI!.!. Y: It's not my busiroess. It's nol President Bush's business. It's not the COr\Slilutioo 's business. O'Reilly Interview Shocker -page 4 of 4 Page I of3 About ~ _. & IS""".,. U.S. PoI,tlcs: Cu,,.n! Even!> u.s. Politics: Current Events ~ UDeepDiscounts ~~ ~ ~ on TraveH ~ with John Arav05i5 Your Gu,de to one of hundreds of searchl j .. 11'1" '-= ":"USI sites Home. Articlu' Forums. Chat. CIa5S~i .. ds . ~~"wllett.I Got tne "t~ .0<1 ~",a, .. , infO In>m cur (I" Want the jump on Back to School Shoppin!l? Let About help. Dorm Life, ~II ~p'Uters , and IlN!:l:.I Subjects ,.,. NEWt CLassil~ ESSENTIALS ,_. NftjO!l\bl SM .. ~ . ~1I:bIJno:<) 'Goy~ . ..- "'-, TerroriMIJ Middle Ent BJ.!!...lce.<l.'A./:bIJ!lQ[ f.a.trjotic Stul! flV~ .nt Bu_~ VP Ch.n.v Abort jon AnU)[u 1M Cabin.t ~mpjllgn Fj .... nc. J::_.tborc Sc.nd.1 ~lJ..Ml!!!U. DY . "'"" ~ II~ ~MlB! II!lt .S. Enron-p!llt EnyjronIMnt Q.i~JfuI!tl .'I: Foreign Polic.Y Gun. and Cr!rnt O'Reiliv Interview Shocker -page 4 of 4 Hear snip pelS from Bill O'Reilly's AJl'OcUie interview by clicking on the hoi 10 the right. The Ldt Doesn't Always Love Him Either Ironically, O'Reilly is just as suspect to those on the lett And the truth is, his show is quite onen a daily diatribe against the supposed evils of liberalism. But I've been a guest on the show about haIfa dozen limes. and got a sense of something else as weI!. Forall his bluster, Bill O'Reilly seems to be a man who lives by a $Olid set of con: beliefs. And when confronted with facts thai, when combined with those beliefs. lcad him to a conclusion Ihal might nOI please some of his more conservative fans. O'Reilly sticks to his principles and states his conclusion, to hell wilh the critics. (Over a period of eight months. I personally witnessed O'Reilly shin from being an ardent defender of Dr. Laura Sl:hlessinger and her anli-gay rhetoric, 10 somC(lne who later blamed Schlessinger for her own demise.) L ...... '0 Sn' __ of O'''''IIy' • ...,.."... •• In' ....... "On-:E.nOlI<. " (186)) "Who In "f.D..']"':! (2534<) " tI<>!r.l!o!oo!J 1217.) ·~3;tr . (Iaa.) · ~ ."t: (1001<) • QnJi •• ~~ •• \IC(I \1:)<.) • O!I.-G.rJf.mo .... l!o •• ~'" AAlI!I> (Z06k) • 1!!!,"_on..G. y~. (15k) • Qn.<iJ. .. In till l!!~iYry . 1239'<) • Qn.l!i--oMI<IDg (lOJ» ...... E",", Abo., Now, doo't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting Bill O'Reilly will be l::!i!!m hnp:f/uspolitics .aboutcom!libraryfwceklyf aa082802e.htm 8/30/02 :T-pagc40f4 dancing anytime soon in a gay pridc parade near you (t!lough. reporter Giltz did discover that O'R~ illy was quite a disco dancer in his day). and O'Reilly himselfis the first to say that he's not staking out these positions with the express intent ofhclping gay peoplc. I also suspect that sometime in the ncar fiJllIre. Bill O'Reilly will again say something on his show that will really tick me off. Nonethcless. this is;) man 10 watch. He may be bombastic. He may yell and scream. And he may cvcn altimes cross the line. But he's also a nmn who listens to his opponents. and re~"JlCCts them if they have a good mind. a good heart. and can cxpress their opinion without coming ofT like a nut. And more importantly, if you gct him onjustlhc right day and with just the right facts. America's favorite conservative mi&ht even agree with you -cvcn ifyou'n: gay. Inside Politics --Thc Washington Timcs SITE SEARCH DAILY '""'I .~a • ... "on/Po~tl CII "M' co .......... ,.., OpI.Io./.dltorlal I4<I1"'l>oU"'. --.......... r_.ol<>ll¥ CLASS'~'EtI" I ARCHIVE .. S"."CI'IIBE I CO'U ... CT " .... BOUT TWT Inside Politics Grc:g I'ierec New$ "nd po/iii,·", di.p"/che,"/rum u,,,unci/he 'lel/iun. Inside Polilies ~ The WashinglOn Times sincerdy deciding nOI 10 run because nobody's going 10 draft a candidale who says he doesn'l expect 10 win. Chatterbox predicts there will be no McCain race for president in 2004 on any tickct." Mr. ToleraDee Bill O'Reilly approves of same·sex "marriages," favol'S allowing homosexuals 10 adopl children. and condemns those who disagree as "fanatics' and "holy rollcl'S." "The only hea! I take on the gay stuffis from very. very religious-driven people.' the host of Fox News Channel's "O'Reilly Factor" says in an interview with the Advocate , a maga:r.ine fnr homosexuals. "Ninety percent of Amerieans don't care what [homosexuals1 do Ten percent are fanatics. They Ihink you're going \0 hell. and they want you 10 go to hell." Mr. O'Reilly told the Advocate : "There arc millions of Americans who are never going 10 accepl [homosexuals]. primarily on religious grounds. You're never going 10 convince the holy rollers that you're nol an abomination. becPuse they're going to quote Ihe Old Testament." Audio exeel1llS of the Advocate interview "''ere posted by political columnist John Aravosis on About.com. "j was never opposed 10 gay adoption: Mr. O'Reilly told the magazine. "Is it better for a kid to be in a fOSler system thaI's chaolic. or to be in a nice. stable home with Iwo people woo love him? It took me ]0 seconds to figure lhal out." Of same·sex "marriage." Mr. O'Reilly said: "You wanl to get married? Knock yourself out. Go to Vcga~ ; have a good lime. If you can get [marriage laws] changed. I'm not going to jump up and down and say ] think it's wrong, because I don't." In fact Mr. O'Reilly. who is married, Iclls Ihe Advocale. "I wish I were gay. I'd get a 101 morc free meals. OK? Maybe somebody would take me out to the movies once in a while." Florida love fest A debate among Ihe DcmocTlltie candidates for Florida governor turned imo a love fesl Tuesday as fonner U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno and her rivals painted a target on their larger foe, the incumbent Republican Gov. Jeb Bush. Not a harsh woro was exchanged as the candidates united in criticism o[President Bush's younger brother, Reuters news agency repons. In their only mecting before the Sept. ]0 Dcmocm tic hup:flwww.washingtonlimes.comlnationallinpolitics.htm Page 3 of5 8129102 r • Oh, Really? Friday, )0 A~us t 2002 The Advocate hbsn't ootten this mIlCh mainstream ~ $inC!!; they swallowed what was left ~ Out magazine . Seem!; I 500fl to be pmled WeMew with ia:InodMt ~ BII ~ has gottl!ll eYeI'\'Ofle'S pantles In an excited wrinkle, wti> lb; Smith IeiIding it phBlanlo: of gOcIy ccmmlW'ity cheerIeOOers stKklng themselves up, thnJWing I:hemseI\oes about and shouting the letters to 0'Rf:~1y' $ name like he scored the winning -. Truth be told,!t makes us it little nervous. Sure, we til .. It's tem'k: that ~ man who has done: more to tum television news InIII it forum for ang.y wh~e (strlllght) go.ryS shouting thtmsel>es red in the fae.! we-supposed IIber3I arrd/Ot OeflOooMie ~ doesn't 5h.)re most 01 his Q)tIlpabiots' ~ e disIilre 01 ~ people. 50..,. at Dioh ,. 011. Re;IIIy? >.-> Dir!!I:Por!g >Sn!r~ ,. C9n'.Aen.la1 >~ But is the fact !hat !his is "news" this late in the "-'s aoreerCOiOCleiIIIltl~ besides us? Not to ",In on a")"Orle'S Labor Dey P;&rIde, but how m/lny 01 his fans _1iI!eIy to reM The AItYocate i'lterview, fII:TVYIay? Or liz Smith's column, for that matter? How much d this lias he said on the air? Wil he be interviewing himself anytime soon? Don't !It!. us wrong -we think It's Just super O'I~elly doesn't think too mud! 01 Jeny Falwd or Pat Robertson or the lmatlcs who think their poisoned tongueS SpNk for Good GocI Amighty, buI: r!hey e"'Id up backkIg the same po!!OpIe politO .... , what the helitind 0( dirte .. : ...... , doI:$' make? (8eQuse r 510110"010,, ~ thought 0111 way to pass gay friendly legi$L)tion withctA~ , we mi$Soed the jftSS ~ .l "" wdI, let them hive their hro. Just n:member ,'" enemy's enemy ~ be considered a friend In some cnIes, but that doesn't mean we hiIY'e to invite hi'Tl out to the ~ lor the weekend. hnp:llwww.dmol ounllc.comld01aloungeillossipJilldt ... hlml.m..Cord ~20 177 l'a"c I of J 0 .... 0" ... In terms d gaV ~, he's nght up then! with .... (' Pat Buchanitn (' Donna Summer (' J. Edgar HooYer (' Kerin SpiIoey (" Cnile P<tgN (" George W. Bush .. , m:w, You HUSThave heard SOMETHING -Shall! it with the world on the oatil lounge ~Q. fprum 8131/02 Morning Repon Pagelof3 ""fr. $11!a ... co l L f G ( Business/e-Business IlomH.com I Prtnt Edlt,on I Ard1ivH I "t ~.,;"="'oL·;!o... August 31, ~OO2 .. f-moll>l"'Y "" Plio, I ~ @1 It_ .... k Morning Report ART. MU5!UMS • ARTS AND ENTERT"INMENT REPORTS FROM THE TIMES, NEWS SERVICES BOOKS. TALKS AND THE NATION'S PRESS. fAMILY. fESTIVAlS MOVIES MUSIC NIGHT Uf! REST .. URANTS READER REVIEW$ SO CAL GUIDE THEATER.O .. NCE TV. RADIO PRINT EDITION TOO.y" Qlend.r """"'''"II Report SuM.y Qlenoa, Suy Tl(ket$ Online $uDmlt Event' Adven,~ With US PARTNERS 1'1 vindiqo' clas.III~. an<l • c., ... ,. , c.,. ·Ho_ • Rental> • N .... ".".' ..... • T1m_ Gu_ • ."""«'-,.<om i;Ulmu.com Th. World Th. Nation Call1o,nl. thilinus POlitiCO Sports T""hnolOgy Ttavel f<lltorlall.Op.Eough he eschews the label himself. Sill O'Reilly has ridden 10 fame for v~ws thai appe~1 10 con~rvalive viewers of Fox News CMnnel, where hi. show ~e O'Rellly Factor" airs. So some of them we'e caughl by sU'J>rise·-and ange,ed- when he gave an Inlervlew 10 the gaY'Ihemed maga~lne the Advocate supporting gay rights and re<:ommend ing thai "fanatical" anti ""lay Ictivlsts be ignored. Posting' on an Internet Web site ol)eraled by Concerned Women for AmeMca, for example, suggested O'Rellly waS confu~d on the Issue and was an e"ample "of the American Chrlst"n wOO does nol know whal God's word said." O'Reilly used his ""ow Thursday nlghl a, a plaltorm to respond 10 the critics. "My stance I •• imple," he said. ·We're all Americans here. Nobody should be discriminated against. ]'lIlnve It to God to figure Ollt WOO'S gOing to hell arod who isn·t. I'm not qualified, and nobody else on Eanh is either." More Americans SII In Front of Ihe Tube T .... n~tional TV audience will grow again next week. as Nielsen Media Research Isslles revised population estimates for Itle 2002·03 television season. T .... pool of U.S. viewers, age 2 and over, I. now l)egged at 272 million, up slightly more than 2 million (or less than 1%) compared to the preViOUS TV ... aSOn. Thc number of households with tclevislon also rose, to 106.7 million from 105.5 million. Each rating point repre ... nts 1% of that tOlal. Nielsen revises Its estlmales annually based on ,esearch and cenSus data. 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