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Posted August 21, 2008 | 04:49 PM (EST)
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I'm a huge gymanstics fan, so beyond the
excitement of the women -- who always get tonsof press coverage -- it was great to see the mendo so well, especially after injuries sidelined theHamm brothers. Raj Bhavsar -- who deserved tobe on the team outright -- switched from analternate to a major player in helping the mensnag a team bronze medal. Alexander Artemev --who is famously inconsistent -- was the last manstanding and had to accomplish his crowd-
pleasing, extremely difficult pommel horse routine under the most intense pressure imaginable.And succeeded brilliantly. And sparkplug Jonathan Horton led the team throughout the event,
giving the performance of his life on apparatus after apparatus.
So I was cheering Horton when he competed on the horizontal bar for an individual medal. At the
last minute, Horton added in some hugely challenging elements because he knew he didn't have a
chance of medaling without them. Before he was ready to go, Horton was bending down next to
those giant tubs of chalk the athletes are always dipping their hands into. Horton bowed his head
for a moment, collecting his thoughts, and I wondered if he was praying.
It wouldn't surprise me. I spoke to Horton about his faith at Madison Square Garden during a pre-
Olympics event. "Definitely, I live my life by Phillipians 4:13: 'Do all things through Him which
strengthens me,'" said Horton when I asked him if there were any Bible passages in particular thatinspired him. (I knew his faith was important to Horton, who is a Southern Baptist. The exactquote from King James that he paraphrased is: "I can do all things through Christ whichstrengtheneth me.") He then pulled out a medallion hanging around his neck. "My sister gave methis. It says, 'Thanks be to God who gives us the victory.' I keep my faith in the Lord knowing thatHe'll keep me safe. That's how I get through this sport because it's so crazy and pretty intense."
We didn't have much time to talk but I started to raise the question of faith in sports. Personally, I
find it absurd for athletes to praise God and give thanks for winning an event, as if God cares aboutsomeone winning the 100 meter dash. Surely such temporal matters are far beneath the concerns
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of God. People who think God would ever care about a high school football game or the World
Series or Olympic diving -- to me -- have a very limited, earthbound idea about what truly matters.
So I get annoyed when athletes point to the sky or act as if God wanted them to win the pole vault
or weightlifting or ping pong. It's almost as silly as thinking God decided they SHOULDN'T win a
particular event because it's part of His plan.
When I jokingly said to Horton that it's hard to thank God when you've just fallen on your face
(Have you ever heard an athlete praise God after LOSING an event? Not often.), Horton gave a
winning reply. "I actually did a crazy release move a couple of years ago in Vegas and smashed my
face on the bar. Have you seen that? I hit the ground and said, 'Thank you I'm not dead," he
laughed.
Which leads me to archery. The New York Times uncovered a scandalous situation on the US
archery team. The brilliant head coach -- Kisik Lee -- has been abusing his position of trust byproseletyzing among the athletes and making those who don't follow his particular form ofevangelical Christianity deeply uncomfortable. The USOC has been aware of the situation but sincethe athletes naturally are worried complaining will kill their chances on the team, the officials cangenerally turn a blind eye and say complaints have been rare.
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Lee makes several outrageous comments, such as that he finds it harder to coach someone whodoesn't share his beliefs. If that's true, he doesn't deserve the job of coach. It would beunacceptable for a coach to say they find it hard to work with people of another race or gender. It'sjust as unacceptable for a coach to say he finds it "hard" to work with someone who is a UnitarianUniversalist or Jewish or Catholic or Buddhist or -- God forbid -- an atheist. If he can't properlycoach people in archery who profess different beliefs (which should basically never come upanyway), he doesn't deserve the name "coach" and should resign. Lee is the one being anti-religoushere, not those who would complain.
Lee insists he can't help himself, that he naturally wants to bring people to Christ. But you don't
bring people to Christ by abusing a position of trust. More bizarrely, he insists that Christiansprobably make better archers. Here's a quote that Bill Maher would love.
To be an effective archer, Lee said, athletes must learn to clear their heads and focus. "If you
are Christian," he said, "then people can have that kind of empty mind."
Asked if people of other faiths could learn to focus in the same way, Lee said he was not sure.
"Maybe," he said. "But for me this is the best answer. So that's why I'm encouraging people to
be the same as me."
Huh? Christians make better archers? What's the breakdown? Do evangelicals do better thanCatholics? Do members of United Church of Christ get 7s and 8s in archery while Episcopalians hitmore 10s?
Maybe Lee should go see Bill Maher's documentary Religulous for penance: none of the US archers
medaled at the games. On the other hand, Horton scored a terrific silver medal in the horizontal
bar. And I'm sure one of the first thoughts running through his mind was, "Thanks be to God whogives us the victory."
I believe the role of faith in sports should be simply to help you win with humility and lose with
grace. God does NOT care about sporting events and doesn't waste His time deciding who will win,who will lose, who will get a career-ending injury and who will use their defeat to come back fouryears later and stick a landing for the Lord.
So what do you think? When athletes point to the sky after winning an event and give all praise to
God, are they just righteously giving the credit where credit is due? Or are they confusing personalglory and accomplishments with what really matters? Do you find it annoying or inspiring?
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I'm still bothered by your photo of Tina Thompson. Are there any plans to replace it? Becky Hammon
thanked Jesus Christ, her personal savior, after winning a Bronze medal with the Russian basketballteam. Why not post a photo of her?
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When good things happen: Thank God. When bad things happen: God is testing you. It's amazing howbelievers compartmentalize. Pretend God isn't there. When good things happen, they happen. Whenbad things happen, they happen. It's the same friggin thing.
Stop giving credit to God, and start giving credit to hard work and determination.
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It just touched my heart to see athletes getting to the end line and seemingly forgetting the cheering
and closing their eyes to focus in what mattered to them.
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I think many of you may misunderstand what the athletes are praying for. They may not be praying forvictory over their opponents, but rather the strength and courage to do their best. I find my faith in Godgives me great strength, especially when I feel myself losing courage, in whatever I do, and regardlessof the outcome. Of course, the athlete wants to win and when he/she does, it's natural to give thanks toGod for the strength, focus, energy (whatever it took) to have done as well as they did, with greatrespect for their opponents. God didn't choose them to win, of course, but rather the athlete's faith in
his/her maker (the source of all) may have given them an extra dose of oomph to make it happen. And
yes, it's true that even the most ardent Christians can be disappointed when they lose -- we are only
human, after all -- but later, if they are true believers, they give thanks to God for the chance to havecompeted and come as far as they have and perhaps pray for another chance to come their way.
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HI Rhaynes, thanks for reading. I appreciate your point of view and saying "God didn't choosethem to win, of course." But then you say that their faith "may have given them an extra doseof oomph to make it happen." That still sounds exacty like saying people of stronger faith aemore likely to win a gold medal in doubles ping poing than people of lesser faith. Doesn't thatseem silly? That yur faith can help you succeed in curling or synchronized diving orbadminton? And again, praying for another chance to win at badiminton -- another chance frwhat, personal glory? -- seems hardly the point of prayer. It's like praying before you pull thelever on the slot machine in Vegas. I just don't think God cares at all and I believe heathenscan kick my ass in wrestling or crew or BMX mountain biking no matter how hard I train and
pray. But I hope more athletes have your modest perspective than what I fear: that they
believe God really DOES want them to win a sporting event, which really trivializes God and
faith in my book.
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Many athletes are worshipping themselves when they prance around pointing to the sky. I'm especially
bothered by football players who drop to one knee in the end zone after scoring a touchdown. This isclearly a personal display and is often about calling attention to themselves.
It's not up to me to say who is sincere in these displays and who is not, but in most cases, it appears to
be ego, not faith.
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in my crazy effed up family if something good happens to you then you praise god. if something bad
happens then you blame the devil.
it's a very convenient avoidance mechanism for people who can't think for themselves or accept any
personal responsibility.
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I often wonder whether athletes making such a show of their personal beliefs on camera realize howoffensive their behavior looks to many Christians. As if they were thanking God for a personal favor,preferring them over their fellow competitors. It doesn't come across very Christian to the viewers forsure.
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The writer of this article brings up some good questions. I used to wonder the same thing.
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Why do people say, "I just want to give God the glory" after they do something like that -
when God isn't here? But isn't God the source? He has created us. We don't createourselves. God puts the talent and desire in us. He gives us the breath to wake up in themorning. He gives us the ability to practice, improve, and excel. Giving God the glory andthanking Him isn't saying that God is taking sides and rooting for one person over another. It'ssimply acknowledging that God DOES CARE and IS INTIMATELY involved in our lives as Hehas created us and given us the ability to do these things.
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Thanks for reading Roger. But my belief is that God doesNOT care in the least about the 4x100 relay or doubles ping
pong or the Super Bowl or any other worldly event like
sports. I can't imagine God caring in the least for somethingso transitory, except that earthly glory and fame and wealth
could endanger our soul. God has given us the ability to swim or run but that's noimportant than the fact that God has given us the ability to spit or tie our shoes.
True, but so what? Why would God care in the least about such silly, unimportant
things we do to entertain ourselves on this earth? Why would God care who wins
the Super Bowl any more than a parent would care which little boy builds a biggersandcastle? You'll cheer both children and pat them on the head but never think fora moment that such a thing matters. And if one boy praised God for his lump ofsand, you'd think it was cute or silly but obviously absurd.
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Prove it. Prove god gave you anything. If you can't, then you are just making it up.
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From Jonathan Horton's hometown paper(http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/5952771.html ):
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He began, as always, with a prayer.
"It"s a sort of "don"t let me die kind of thing,"" he said, laughing. "Today, it was "just give me strength,
give me endurance.' I pray for safety and the strength I need and the precision I need to get through
the routine."
---Understandable given the circumstances.
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I find it very annoying. For example: When the runner who just won the silver says that she didn't win
the gold because God didn't want her to... Give me a break! She won the silver because that was whatshe was capable of when she ran that race against the field she ran against.
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it's the buddy christ syndrome, all of your successes are because christ is on YOUR side, all of yourlosses are ignored or thought of as, "ah, the big JC was trying to teach me something"...there are not magical superpowered being floating around helping people win games... or run faster, orjump higher, or swing around on a bar better than someone else. People who actually believe this aredelusional, maybe it helps some by taking the responsibility/stress off of them... but really, if they won itis because they did better at that moment that their other person.
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they should credit themselves, they are the ones that played a better game or what not...
If a gymnast won and was being interviewed and said "I'd like to thank the gymnastics fairy for givingme the strength to win." it would be HUGE, and they would be ridiculed to all ends... replacegymnastics fairy with "god" or "jesus" or "christ" and somehow it's ok...
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What happens when there are Christians on both sides of the competition? Is he saying God has todecide in every single contest on earth, with all of the athletic competition going on every moment ofevery day SOMEWHERE, who He is going to "help" win THIS TME? That seems like a lot of trivial
decisions to me. I agree that His time could be better spent elsewhere . . .
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I have often shared similar thoughts...when I hear a football player/actor/singer/oscar winner thank god
and say it was god's doing, I just have to think "Yeah, that's right, there are children going to bed sick,hungry, abused, molested or orphaned in every city, in every country in the entire world, but yeah,god's watching the Superbowl and putting everything he/she has into YOUR team winning"
Yeap....exactly. Thanks for a great essay on this, but it will never reach those who really need to read
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The photo you have coordinated with this article is misleading, though. I am almost positive that Tina
Thompson is blowing a kiss to her 3-year-old son in the stands, and her family and friends, and hergesture has nothing whatsoever to do with any deity. You may owe her an apology for mis-using herimage in this way. On the other hand -- thank you for realizing that there are women playing basketballat the Olympics. Tomorrow they will play for their FOURTH straight gold medal. (They actually WON inAthens... but all anyone heard about was the men LOSING) So some props to the women would be
most appropriate. Go USA!
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I'm a huge gymanstics fan, so beyond the
excitement of the women -- who always get tonsof press coverage -- it was great to see the mendo so well, especially after injuries sidelined theHamm brothers. Raj Bhavsar -- who deserved tobe on the team outright -- switched from analternate to a major player in helping the mensnag a team bronze medal. Alexander Artemev --who is famously inconsistent -- was the last manstanding and had to accomplish his crowd-
pleasing, extremely difficult pommel horse routine under the most intense pressure imaginable.And succeeded brilliantly. And sparkplug Jonathan Horton led the team throughout the event,
giving the performance of his life on apparatus after apparatus.
So I was cheering Horton when he competed on the horizontal bar for an individual medal. At the
last minute, Horton added in some hugely challenging elements because he knew he didn't have a
chance of medaling without them. Before he was ready to go, Horton was bending down next to
those giant tubs of chalk the athletes are always dipping their hands into. Horton bowed his head
for a moment, collecting his thoughts, and I wondered if he was praying.
It wouldn't surprise me. I spoke to Horton about his faith at Madison Square Garden during a pre-
Olympics event. "Definitely, I live my life by Phillipians 4:13: 'Do all things through Him which
strengthens me,'" said Horton when I asked him if there were any Bible passages in particular thatinspired him. (I knew his faith was important to Horton, who is a Southern Baptist. The exactquote from King James that he paraphrased is: "I can do all things through Christ whichstrengtheneth me.") He then pulled out a medallion hanging around his neck. "My sister gave methis. It says, 'Thanks be to God who gives us the victory.' I keep my faith in the Lord knowing thatHe'll keep me safe. That's how I get through this sport because it's so crazy and pretty intense."
We didn't have much time to talk but I started to raise the question of faith in sports. Personally, I
find it absurd for athletes to praise God and give thanks for winning an event, as if God cares aboutsomeone winning the 100 meter dash. Surely such temporal matters are far beneath the concerns
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of God. People who think God would ever care about a high school football game or the World
Series or Olympic diving -- to me -- have a very limited, earthbound idea about what truly matters.
So I get annoyed when athletes point to the sky or act as if God wanted them to win the pole vault
or weightlifting or ping pong. It's almost as silly as thinking God decided they SHOULDN'T win a
particular event because it's part of His plan.
When I jokingly said to Horton that it's hard to thank God when you've just fallen on your face
(Have you ever heard an athlete praise God after LOSING an event? Not often.), Horton gave a
winning reply. "I actually did a crazy release move a couple of years ago in Vegas and smashed my
face on the bar. Have you seen that? I hit the ground and said, 'Thank you I'm not dead," he
laughed.
Which leads me to archery. The New York Times uncovered a scandalous situation on the US
archery team. The brilliant head coach -- Kisik Lee -- has been abusing his position of trust byproseletyzing among the athletes and making those who don't follow his particular form ofevangelical Christianity deeply uncomfortable. The USOC has been aware of the situation but sincethe athletes naturally are worried complaining will kill their chances on the team, the officials cangenerally turn a blind eye and say complaints have been rare.
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Lee makes several outrageous comments, such as that he finds it harder to coach someone whodoesn't share his beliefs. If that's true, he doesn't deserve the job of coach. It would beunacceptable for a coach to say they find it hard to work with people of another race or gender. It'sjust as unacceptable for a coach to say he finds it "hard" to work with someone who is a UnitarianUniversalist or Jewish or Catholic or Buddhist or -- God forbid -- an atheist. If he can't properlycoach people in archery who profess different beliefs (which should basically never come upanyway), he doesn't deserve the name "coach" and should resign. Lee is the one being anti-religoushere, not those who would complain.
Lee insists he can't help himself, that he naturally wants to bring people to Christ. But you don't
bring people to Christ by abusing a position of trust. More bizarrely, he insists that Christiansprobably make better archers. Here's a quote that Bill Maher would love.
To be an effective archer, Lee said, athletes must learn to clear their heads and focus. "If you
are Christian," he said, "then people can have that kind of empty mind."
Asked if people of other faiths could learn to focus in the same way, Lee said he was not sure.
"Maybe," he said. "But for me this is the best answer. So that's why I'm encouraging people to
be the same as me."
Huh? Christians make better archers? What's the breakdown? Do evangelicals do better thanCatholics? Do members of United Church of Christ get 7s and 8s in archery while Episcopalians hitmore 10s?
Maybe Lee should go see Bill Maher's documentary Religulous for penance: none of the US archers
medaled at the games. On the other hand, Horton scored a terrific silver medal in the horizontal
bar. And I'm sure one of the first thoughts running through his mind was, "Thanks be to God whogives us the victory."
I believe the role of faith in sports should be simply to help you win with humility and lose with
grace. God does NOT care about sporting events and doesn't waste His time deciding who will win,who will lose, who will get a career-ending injury and who will use their defeat to come back fouryears later and stick a landing for the Lord.
So what do you think? When athletes point to the sky after winning an event and give all praise to
God, are they just righteously giving the credit where credit is due? Or are they confusing personalglory and accomplishments with what really matters? Do you find it annoying or inspiring?
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I'm still bothered by your photo of Tina Thompson. Are there any plans to replace it? Becky Hammon
thanked Jesus Christ, her personal savior, after winning a Bronze medal with the Russian basketballteam. Why not post a photo of her?
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When good things happen: Thank God. When bad things happen: God is testing you. It's amazing howbelievers compartmentalize. Pretend God isn't there. When good things happen, they happen. Whenbad things happen, they happen. It's the same friggin thing.
Stop giving credit to God, and start giving credit to hard work and determination.
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It just touched my heart to see athletes getting to the end line and seemingly forgetting the cheering
and closing their eyes to focus in what mattered to them.
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I think many of you may misunderstand what the athletes are praying for. They may not be praying forvictory over their opponents, but rather the strength and courage to do their best. I find my faith in Godgives me great strength, especially when I feel myself losing courage, in whatever I do, and regardlessof the outcome. Of course, the athlete wants to win and when he/she does, it's natural to give thanks toGod for the strength, focus, energy (whatever it took) to have done as well as they did, with greatrespect for their opponents. God didn't choose them to win, of course, but rather the athlete's faith in
his/her maker (the source of all) may have given them an extra dose of oomph to make it happen. And
yes, it's true that even the most ardent Christians can be disappointed when they lose -- we are only
human, after all -- but later, if they are true believers, they give thanks to God for the chance to havecompeted and come as far as they have and perhaps pray for another chance to come their way.
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HI Rhaynes, thanks for reading. I appreciate your point of view and saying "God didn't choosethem to win, of course." But then you say that their faith "may have given them an extra doseof oomph to make it happen." That still sounds exacty like saying people of stronger faith aemore likely to win a gold medal in doubles ping poing than people of lesser faith. Doesn't thatseem silly? That yur faith can help you succeed in curling or synchronized diving orbadminton? And again, praying for another chance to win at badiminton -- another chance frwhat, personal glory? -- seems hardly the point of prayer. It's like praying before you pull thelever on the slot machine in Vegas. I just don't think God cares at all and I believe heathenscan kick my ass in wrestling or crew or BMX mountain biking no matter how hard I train and
pray. But I hope more athletes have your modest perspective than what I fear: that they
believe God really DOES want them to win a sporting event, which really trivializes God and
faith in my book.
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Many athletes are worshipping themselves when they prance around pointing to the sky. I'm especially
bothered by football players who drop to one knee in the end zone after scoring a touchdown. This isclearly a personal display and is often about calling attention to themselves.
It's not up to me to say who is sincere in these displays and who is not, but in most cases, it appears to
be ego, not faith.
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in my crazy effed up family if something good happens to you then you praise god. if something bad
happens then you blame the devil.
it's a very convenient avoidance mechanism for people who can't think for themselves or accept any
personal responsibility.
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I often wonder whether athletes making such a show of their personal beliefs on camera realize howoffensive their behavior looks to many Christians. As if they were thanking God for a personal favor,preferring them over their fellow competitors. It doesn't come across very Christian to the viewers forsure.
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The writer of this article brings up some good questions. I used to wonder the same thing.
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Why do people say, "I just want to give God the glory" after they do something like that -
when God isn't here? But isn't God the source? He has created us. We don't createourselves. God puts the talent and desire in us. He gives us the breath to wake up in themorning. He gives us the ability to practice, improve, and excel. Giving God the glory andthanking Him isn't saying that God is taking sides and rooting for one person over another. It'ssimply acknowledging that God DOES CARE and IS INTIMATELY involved in our lives as Hehas created us and given us the ability to do these things.
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Thanks for reading Roger. But my belief is that God doesNOT care in the least about the 4x100 relay or doubles ping
pong or the Super Bowl or any other worldly event like
sports. I can't imagine God caring in the least for somethingso transitory, except that earthly glory and fame and wealth
could endanger our soul. God has given us the ability to swim or run but that's noimportant than the fact that God has given us the ability to spit or tie our shoes.
True, but so what? Why would God care in the least about such silly, unimportant
things we do to entertain ourselves on this earth? Why would God care who wins
the Super Bowl any more than a parent would care which little boy builds a biggersandcastle? You'll cheer both children and pat them on the head but never think fora moment that such a thing matters. And if one boy praised God for his lump ofsand, you'd think it was cute or silly but obviously absurd.
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Prove it. Prove god gave you anything. If you can't, then you are just making it up.
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From Jonathan Horton's hometown paper(http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/5952771.html ):
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He began, as always, with a prayer.
"It"s a sort of "don"t let me die kind of thing,"" he said, laughing. "Today, it was "just give me strength,
give me endurance.' I pray for safety and the strength I need and the precision I need to get through
the routine."
---Understandable given the circumstances.
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I find it very annoying. For example: When the runner who just won the silver says that she didn't win
the gold because God didn't want her to... Give me a break! She won the silver because that was whatshe was capable of when she ran that race against the field she ran against.
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it's the buddy christ syndrome, all of your successes are because christ is on YOUR side, all of yourlosses are ignored or thought of as, "ah, the big JC was trying to teach me something"...there are not magical superpowered being floating around helping people win games... or run faster, orjump higher, or swing around on a bar better than someone else. People who actually believe this aredelusional, maybe it helps some by taking the responsibility/stress off of them... but really, if they won itis because they did better at that moment that their other person.
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they should credit themselves, they are the ones that played a better game or what not...
If a gymnast won and was being interviewed and said "I'd like to thank the gymnastics fairy for givingme the strength to win." it would be HUGE, and they would be ridiculed to all ends... replacegymnastics fairy with "god" or "jesus" or "christ" and somehow it's ok...
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What happens when there are Christians on both sides of the competition? Is he saying God has todecide in every single contest on earth, with all of the athletic competition going on every moment ofevery day SOMEWHERE, who He is going to "help" win THIS TME? That seems like a lot of trivial
decisions to me. I agree that His time could be better spent elsewhere . . .
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I have often shared similar thoughts...when I hear a football player/actor/singer/oscar winner thank god
and say it was god's doing, I just have to think "Yeah, that's right, there are children going to bed sick,hungry, abused, molested or orphaned in every city, in every country in the entire world, but yeah,god's watching the Superbowl and putting everything he/she has into YOUR team winning"
Yeap....exactly. Thanks for a great essay on this, but it will never reach those who really need to read
it.
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The photo you have coordinated with this article is misleading, though. I am almost positive that Tina
Thompson is blowing a kiss to her 3-year-old son in the stands, and her family and friends, and hergesture has nothing whatsoever to do with any deity. You may owe her an apology for mis-using herimage in this way. On the other hand -- thank you for realizing that there are women playing basketballat the Olympics. Tomorrow they will play for their FOURTH straight gold medal. (They actually WON inAthens... but all anyone heard about was the men LOSING) So some props to the women would be
most appropriate. Go USA!
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Germany 13 9 13Netherlands 6 5 4Belgium 0 0 0
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